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Maybe flawsome sections of the English Wikipedia article 'Two envelopes problem' (revision at 21:12, 4 January 2021)

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I who am a Japanese wrote this page in English, but I am not so good at English.


In my perception, the English language Wikipedia article 'Two envelopes problem' (revision at 21:12, 4 January 2021) has some points I think better to be corrected. Such points have increased from the revision 21:39, 23 November 2014.

☟ Important
I hope you at least read the following important paragraphs.
(← Added on February 1, 2022)

Contents

Composition of the revision 21:12, 4 January 2021 of the article

Revision 21:12, 4 January 2021 of the article has following composition.

Sections that I think probably better to be corrected

The lead section

(Added on February 1, 2022)

In my eyes, the problem statement summary in this section is not appropriate.

In my eyes, in the part after the phrase "Problems are usually caused by formulating the following types of virtual challenges", there are problems such as: As the consequence, I think it is preferable to express only the essence.

Example of the expression of the essence.
The essence of the problem is as follows:
There are two envelopes such that one contains twice amount of money as much as the other. You are randomly handed one of the two envelopes, and you are given the chance to switch envelopes. If you let x be the amount of the handed money, then the expected value of the amount of money in the other envelope will be 1.25x that is greater than x. Therefore, it is always preferable to switch envelopes, regardless of the value of x and regardless which envelope is handed.
This is a paradox.

Section "1.1 Problem"

(Added on July 25, 2021)

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There is a circular reference in the section "1.1 Problem"

(Moved here on July 25, 2021. The title was revised on December 21, 2021)

There is a circular reference among the paper Falk, Ruma (2008) and the English language Wikipedia article "Two envelopes problem". Therefore, instead of the paper by Falk, I recommend to refer to McGrew, T. J., Shier, D., & Silverstein, H. S. (1997) which has the following characteristics.

☟ Important
I think that it is desirable to make new paragraph "Paradoxes" and move the paradox described by lines 9-12 of the switching argument there.

(Added on February 1, 2022)

The paradox described by lines 9-12 of the switching argument is unique to the switching argument before opening envelope. So, I think it must not be included in the common switching argument. And I think some famous paradoxes should be presented in a new paragraph "Paradoxes" with reference to the literature.

I think the new paragraph "Paradoxes" should explain the following:
Mathematical discussion and philosophical discussion:
  • Mathematician try to solve the problem by careful calculation of the probability.
  • Philosophers try to solve the problem by proving that it is impossible to use x/2 and 2x simultaneously in the expected value formula without contradiction.
Examples of paradoxes

I'm afraid that the claim " The puzzle is to find the flaw in the very compelling line of reasoning above" is unsuitable

(Added on December 21, 2021)

From the following, I think mathematicians and philospphers both did not try to find the flaw along whith the line of reasoning. However, the claim is very traditional (the first revision with this claim was at 22:13 on October 3, 2005).
Therefore, I don't think this claim needs to be removed. ☜ Important

I think that it is desirable to create new paragraph "Wording variations of the problem statement".

(Added on February 1, 2022)

I think it is desirable to show important variations of the wording of problem statement

Examples of important variations: Examples of less important variations:

Order of solutions

(Added on April 15, 2024)

☟ Important
I think the section "Bayesian resolutions" should be placed before the section "Simple resolution"", as the Bayesian resolution was historically discussed before the simple resolutions.

Section "2 Multiplicity of proposed solutions"

(Added on April 15, 2024)

☟ Important
I think the title of the section "Multiplicity of proposed solutions" suggests that the editors of the article understand that there is only one problem and multiple solutions for it. However, such an understanding is a big misunderstanding.
I think the editors of the article should understand that there are multiple interpretations of the two envelopes problem as below.

Interpretation that the problem demands the solution based on a pair of amounts of money.
On this interpretation, the fallacy may be thinking of a uniqe amount in the selected envelope.
Interpretation that the problem demands the solution based on a unique amount of money in the selected envelope.
On this interpretation, the fallacy should be misculculation of probability.
Interpretation that the problem demands the solution based on all pairs of amounts of money
On this interpretation, the fallacy may be the discharge fallacy.

Section "3 Simple resolution"

Resolutions by philosophers may not be so simple

I think this section presents resolutions by philosophers who didn't accept mathematical resolution. And the discussed problems, paradoxes, and resolutions are different from those discussed by mathematicians.

Comparing philosophical and mathematical resolutions
  problem and paradox for philosophers problem and paradox for mathematicians
chance to switch envelopes In all literatures, the chance is given before opening the chosen envelope. In the almost literatures, the chance is given after opening the chosen envelope.
the fallacy of calculation of the expected amount of money in the other envelope fallacious use of x/2 and 2x in the calculation formula groundless probability 1/2
(↑ Revised on April 5, 2021)
diagnoth of the expected value calculation formula method1 :
detection of non rigidity of the symbol x.

method2 :
detection of the fact that the amount of money in the other envelope is not determind acording the amount of money in the chosen envelope after choice.
method 1:
exemplification of the case that the probability is not 1/2.

method 2 :
proof that the prbability distribution can not be proper if the probability is always 1/2.
fixing of the calculation formula Often no fix presented, but lessons presented to avoid the error. Almost mathematician derived correct calculation formula using a symbol of the probability density function.
cause of the fallacy expected value calculating formula itself probability illusion
(A few mathematician thought that a careless assumption of the prior distribution is the cause of the fallacy)
thinking about the opposite problem All philosophers ignored the case of chance of switching given after opening. Some mathematician thought that there is no paradox befor opening.
goals of the problem error detection of the expected value calculation formula

※ I think that the formula that derives no paradox is not a goal but a by-product.
  1. confirmation that the probabilty is not always 1/2
  2. fixing of the calculation formula
  3. confirmation of the law of total expectation using the corrected formula

And the philosophical literatures, unlike the mathematical literatures, are so complicated to me that I had a hard time understanding them.

As the consequence, the following may be desirable.

In the section "3 Simple resolution", in my eyes it seems that the simple resolution by philosophers was not explained easily understable.

(Added on November 26, 2022)

In my understanding, the simple resolution by philosophers is a "Diagnosis" such as follows. And I think it is explained in the section "3 Simple resolution", but the explanation is not easily understandable.
I hope that the above "Diagnosis" becomes explained more straightforward.

I think that the phrase "any average A" should not be used.

(Added on November 26, 2022)

I think there is a duplication among the following statement in this section and the section "4 Other simple resolutions", as it uses the phrase "any average A".
Whereas step 6 boldly claims "Thus the other envelope contains 2A with probability 1/2 and A/2 with probability 1/2.", in the given situation, that claim can never be applicable to any A nor to any average A.

Section "4 Other simple resolutions"

In my eyes, the title "Other simple resolutions" is not suitable to the content of the section.

(On November 26, 2022, this paragraph was written as the revised virsion of the paragraph 'In my eyes, the paragraph which contains "E(A|A<B) + (1/4)E(A|A>B)" is not suitable to the section "4 Other simple resolutions"')
I understood that the opinion of the section "Other simple resolutions" is as follows. And I think that the title "Other simple resolutions" of the section is not appropriate, bcause of the following reasons. As the consequence, it would be desirable to change the title of the"Other simple resolutions" section.
For example:
Addition: discharge fallacy
The concept of "discharge fallacy" is explained in Jeffrey, R.(1995).
And I understood that the fallacy is the careless replacement of unconditional expectations for conditional expectations.
And "the discharge fallacy" is different from the fallacy discussed by philosophers, as most philosophers probably had not think of the expected value of the amount of money contained in the chosen envelope.
As far as I can tell, philosophers who considered the expected value of the amount of money contained in the chosen envelope did not detect the discharge fallacy.
  • In my eyes, in Schwitzgebel, E., & Dever, J. (2008), the symbol X was not assumed to be the expected value of the amount in the envelope A, even though the expected value was took into account.
  • In Rawling, P. (1994), the expected value of the amount of money contained in the chosen envelope was probably considered. And the author himself may have experienced the discharge fallacy. However, to my eyes, in the literature, the paradox was resolved by another way different from detection of the discharge fallacy itself.
I expect that there is some psychological similarity between the discharge fallacy and the confusion between average of rates and rate of averages. ☜ Important
And, based on my own psychological experience, I got the hypothesis that the first half of the psychological process of discharge fallacy would be the confusion between average of rates and rate of averages.
This is another reason to consider the fallacy described in the section "4 Other simple resolutions" to be different from the fallacies described in the section "3 Simple resolution".

In my eyes, it seems that Schwitzgebel, E., & Dever, J. (2008) is not accurately quoted in the section "4 Other simple resolutions"

(Added on April 7, 2021)

In this section, it is claimed that:
A common way to resolve the paradox, both in popular literature and part of the academic literature, especially in philosophy, is to assume that the 'A' in step 7 is intended to be the expected value in envelope A and that we intended to write down a formula for the expected value in envelope B.
And the following correct calculation is presented with reference to Schwitzgebel, E., & Dever, J. (2008).
Expected value in B = 1/2((Expected value in B, given A is larger than B) + (Expected value in B, given A is smaller than B))
However, these contradict to the followings.
(On November 26, 2022, the paragraph "In my eyes, the paragraph which contains 'E(A|A<B) + (1/4)E(A|A>B)' is not suitable to the section '4 Other simple resolutions' " was deleted.)

In my eyes, the paragraph which contains "E(A|A<B) + (1/4)E(A|A>B)" has some drawbacks

(On November 26, 2022, this new paragraph was created using some contents of the removed paragraph "In my eyes, the paragraph which contains 'E(A|A<B) + (1/4)E(A|A>B)' is not suitable to the section '4 Other simple resolutions' ")

The same expression as "E(A|A<B) + (1/4)E(A|A>B)" was written in Jeffrey, R.(1995). However, to my eyes, showing the original fallacious expression "(1/2) 2 E(A) + (1/2) (1/2) E(A)" is more valuable rather than deforming the correct expression to the above expression.
A similar fallacious expression ".5E(.5X) +.5E(2X)" was written in Jeffrey, R.(1995). And another similar fallacious expression "0.5(0.5 emv(yours) + 0.5(2emv(yours))" was written in Rawling, P. (1994).
And I think that showing that E(A|A<B) is exactly as half as E(A|A>B) is more valuable rather than showing the above deformed expression "E(A|A<B) + (1/4)E(A|A>B)".

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It seems better not to have the paragraph that begins with "Tsikogiannopoulos presented a different way to do these calculations"

Reading the following discussion in an archived talk page, I found that many editors of this article "Two envelopes problem" had thought the opinion by Tsikogiannopoulos better not presented in this article. (← Revised on April 10, 2021)
The discussion titled "Request for comments" which had started at 11:30, 19 October 2014 , and had been NACed at 06:46, 6 December 2014.
(In April 2021, We can read this discussion in the page titled "Talk:Two envelopes problem/Archive 9 - Wikipedia")
(↑ Revised on April 9, 2021)
I think it's thanks to the editor who NACed the discussion that we can still read it even now in June 2021. ☜ Important (← Added on June 10, 2021)
I think editors who didn't accept the opinion have not yet accepted it. (← Added on April 6, 2021)
And in my eyes, in subsequent discussions about the opinion, no editor agreed to present it in the article "Two envelopes problem". ☜ Important (← Added on December 1, 2021)
And the opinion by Tsikogiannopoulos is still very minor in 2021.  On March 26, 2021, I searched Tsikogiannopoulos, P. (2014) using Google Scholar and found that it is cited by only one other paper.
And I myself have never seen a similar opinion on internet web pages, except for one blog page. ☜ Important (← Added on August 14, 2021)

Most editors didn't seem to focus the meaning of the opinion.
(Added on July 18, 2021)

So I think the editors of the article "Two envelopes problem" should discuss about the meaning of the opinion in order to clean up the article. ☜ Important
(↑ Added on November 23, 2021)


In the first place, the opinion should not be written in the section of its current location, as it deals with two pairs of amount of money.
(↑ Added on April 24, 2021)


Addition: Strange points of the opinion by Tsikogiannopoulos
(Added on April 18, 2021)



↑ On December 14, 2021, one item relating to the confusion between average of rates and rate of averages was removed from the above list. On December 21, 2021, another low-value item was removed from the above list.

Addition: I have tried to explain the meaning of "success factor"
(Added on April 30, 2021)


I think that the concept of "imbalance rate" helps to understand the meaning of "success factor".
Let A be the amount of money enveloped in the chosen envelope, and let SL and SG be the success factor of the lesser pair and the success factor of the greater pair respectively. Then,
  SL = (A/2 - A)/(3A/4) = (A/2 - 3A/4)/(3A/4) - (A - 3A4)/(3A/4) and
  SG = (2A - A)/(3A/2) = (2A - 3A/2)/(3A/2) - (A - 3A2)/(3A/2).
(A/2 - 3A/4)/(3A/4) and (A - 3A/4)/(3A/4) are understandable as the "imbalance rate", i.e. the rate of the difference of the amount from the average.  Similarly, (A - 3A/2)/(3A/2) and (2A - 3A/2)/(3A/2) are understandable as the "imbalance rate" too.
As mentioned above, the success factor is interpretable as the switching gain of the imbalance rate.

Addition: An example of very similar opinions
(Added on April 30, 2021)


On November 8, 2004, an opinion which was very similar to the opinion by Tsikogiannopoulos had been written in a blog page. In the opinion, the expected value of the imbalance rates had been calculated instead of the success factors as follows.
Assume that the chosen envelope contains 10,000 JPY, then the expected value will be as follows. (One zero was added on May 11, 2021)
Case with switching :  (-2500/7500) × 1/2 + (+5000/15000) × 1/2 = 0
Case without switching :  (+2500/7500) × 1/2 + (-5000/15000) × 1/2 = 0
On November 10, 2004, the author of the blog page himself withdrew the above opinion after reading the mathematical resolution.  ☜ Important

Section "4.1 Nalebuff asymmetric variant"

I think it may be better not to refer to Nalebuff, Barry.(1989) here

(Revised on April 16, 2024)

In the literature, the chance to switch envelope is given after opening the chosen envelope. Therefore it is not appropriate to refer it in this section which locates under the section "4 Other simple resolutions".
Another reason is that Nalebuff is a mathematician and the resolution presented in that literature is mathematical rather than philosophical. (← Added on April 17, 2021)
Yet another reason, in my perception, is that the asymmetric variant is less important in Nalebuff, Barry.(1989). (← Added on April 22, 2021)
If you just would like to refer to Nalebuff, Barry.(1989) as a literature about the asymmetric variant, you may had better to make it an independent section. (← Added on May 11, 2021. Revised on August 14, 2021, November 11, 2021, April 16, 2024)

If Nalebuff, Barry.(1989) is cited here, it should be emphasized that it was a major inspiration to the simple resolution literatures.

(Added on April 16, 2024)

I think it's important that a lot of popular literature on simple resolutions referred to Nalebuff, Barry.(1989).
Examples:

Section "5 Bayesian resolutions"

It may be beter to clarify the caracterlistics of the mathematical resolution

I think the mathematical resolution has characteristics described in table "Comparing philosophical and mathematical resolutions.
And I think the most important characteristics is that the chance to switch is given after opening.
※ Mathematicians can think conditional expected value before opening but are not fond of doing so.

And I think the mathematical resolution is not so Bayesian.
Zabell, S. (1988) was published in a jornal of the Bayesian statistics. And the title of Christensen, R; Utts, J (1992) has word "Bayesian".
But in my eyes, these literatures did not use any concepts specific to Bayesian statistics other than "posterior probability" and "prior probability".
Even if the authors are Bayesian, I don't think their resolution is not so Bayesian.
However, I think it is not bad to use the words "Bayesian probability theory", "Bayes' theorem" or "Bayes' rule" in section titles.

Addition:
As far as I know, the following Wikipedia articles mathematically discuss, but the term "Bayes" is not used in the section titles. (← Revised on November 11, 2021)
language of Wikipedia title of the article about the two envelopes problem   revision   Section titles
beginning with
"Bayes"
(Added on
November 11 ,2021)
Words
beginning with
"Bayes"
German Umtauschparadoxon 16:55, 22. Aug. 2016‎ Nothing Nothing
Italian Paradosso delle due buste 15:12, 16 apr 2016‎ Nothing Nothing
Hebrew פרדוקס המעטפות 04:20, 1 במאי 2016‏ Nothing Nothing
Dutch Enveloppenparadox 13 feb 2014 18:33‎ Nothing "Bayes' rule"
Russian Задача о двух конвертах 05:17, 19 ноября 2016‎ Nothing Nothing
As the consequence, the following seems desirable. Addition: In the mathematical literatures the chance to switch has been given after opening
A mathematical article Zabell, S. (1988) is the most old literature of the two envelopes problem, and the chance to switch envelopes is given after opening the chosen envelope. And many famous literatures following this article presented the problem with same fashion.
And many mathematical literatures said that there is no paradox before opening the chosen envelope.
The English Wikipedia article "Two Envelopes problem" had the section "A harder problem" until the revision at 17:57, 8 October 2008, and in the section, the chance to switch was given after opening.

The explanation of the fallacy may be wrong

In my perception, this section explains that the cause of the fallacy is careless assumption of flat distribution.
But I think that such an explanation is merely one hypothesis by non psychological researchers, and that hypothesis has not been verified by cognitive psychological experiment.
So I think it needs to be clarified that the explanation is just one hypothesis.

For mathematicians, the correct calculation formula is one of their goals

I think that the corrected calculation formula should be presented as one of the goals of the problem. Detection of the probability error should be presented as introduction of the corrected calculation.
And I think that the way to calculate conditional expected value of the amount of money should be presented as basic knowledge, not as "further developments in connection with Bayesian probability theory". ☜ Important
Historically, Zabell, S. (1988) (The most old literature of the two envelopes problem) presented calculation formula of conditional probability as below.
P[X=y|Y1=y] = p(y)/{p(y)+p(y/2)}. (X is the lesser amount, Y1 is the amount contained in your envelope, and p is the continuous or descrete dencity function.)
(I'm afraid that the above formula is wrong for the continuous case)
 I think the German language wikipedia article "Umtauschparadoxon" (revision am 3. April 2020 um 09:31) is exemplary as it clearly presents each conditional expectation formula for the case of descrete distribution and the case of continuos distribution. (← Revised on April 8, 2021)

Section "5.3 Second mathematical variant"

It may be better to change the title

I don't think it's appropriate to number it like "Second mathematical variant". So I think the following titles may be better. However, at the revision of 14:46, 27 August 2004, the English language Wikipedia article "Envelope paradox" had a section titled "A second paradox" on this theme. Therefore, it cannot be said that the title "Second mathematical variant" is not traditional, and this problem might be not so important.
(↑ Added on August 1, 2021)

Section "7 Conditional switching"

☟ Important
The English language Wikipedia article "Two envelopes problem" should have section about the theme of randomized switching

Randomized switching has been very important theme from the early days of the two envelopes problem.
So I think the section "7 Conditional switching" should be replaced with the section "8 Randomized solutions" revision at 12:56, 28 December 2019 .

Addition: (← Added on April 15, 2024)

The photo paseted on the lead section

(On February 1, 2022, this title was changed)

It is not an error to fold bills in the photo titled "The puzzle concerns two envelopes containing money". But …

When I first saw it, the envelopes in the photo looked like the simplified version of NOSHI BUKURO rather than the formal version. (← Revised on June 23, 2021, July 25, 2021)
Formal NOSHI BUKURO is a kind of gift wrapping and it is used for congratulations party such as wedding receptions.
The NOSHI BUKURO in the photo looked like just a simplified version , but I was startled to see the folded bill. (← Revised on June 27, 2021, November 11, 2021)
However I can understand that it is not an error to fold bills in the simplified version NOSHI BUKURO which is used for informal celebrations.
And I have found there is a miniature version of NOSHI BUKURO which we can't put bills unless folding.
And over time, I've become accustomed to seeing the photo.

(↓ Added on June 18, 2021)
Recently (June, 2021), I found that the miniature version NOSHI BUKURO is sometime used as OTOSHIDAMA BUKURO (Envelopes for New Year's money gifts).
And I found that the photo which was pasted on the lead section on September 18, 2020 is exactly the miniature version.
That photo had been registered to Wikimedia on December 31, 2019 and paseted on the Japanese language Wikipedia article "お年玉" (OTOSHIDAMA) on the same day.
(↑ Revised on August 14, 2021, November 29, 2022)
I had misunderstood that the photo is the simplified version NOSHI BUKURO. (← Added on July 02, 2021)

(On June 23, 2021, the text explaining my personal experience as a Japanese about OTOSHIDAMA BUKURO was deleted)

(↓ Added on June 23, 2021)
However, another problems about the photo still remain. (← Revised on June 27, 2021, July 25, 2021, August 14, 2021) (↓ Added on July 02, 2021)
The former photo pasted at the revision 11:42, 27 August 2009 and removed at the revision 22:34, 18 January 2016 may be more suitable for the following reasons. (← Revised on August 14, 2021) However, in my eyes, this photo is very dreary. It may be better not to have a photo, as many other language Wikipedia articles about the two envelopes problem dont have. (← Added on August 14, 2021)

About Afterwards

(↑ Added on November 26, 2022)

The photo was removed at the revision 18:21, 2 August 2022.


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